Comments on: 60,000 Chevy Volts to be Built for 2010 Model Year http://gm-volt.com/2007/08/22/60000-chevy-volts-to-be-built-for-2010-model-year/ Real-time news, information, and discussion about the Chevrolet Volt. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:53:37 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: fred http://gm-volt.com/2007/08/22/60000-chevy-volts-to-be-built-for-2010-model-year/#comment-143861 fred Mon, 07 Sep 2009 01:04:32 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/08/22/60000-chevy-volts-to-be-built-for-2010-model-year/#comment-143861 I'm not using more than $120.00 of petrol a month right now, sometimes less. After it went up to $4.00 a gallon I stopped using as much as possible. I won't be leasing a battery pack that costs me more than petrol costs. If GM leases their pack I will be purchasing from any of the others that are not leasing a battery as they will all be dumping their electrics on the market in 2012. I just don't understand why the manufacturers are all waiting for 2012. I’m not using more than $120.00 of petrol a month right now, sometimes less. After it went up to $4.00 a gallon I stopped using as much as possible. I won’t be leasing a battery pack that costs me more than petrol costs. If GM leases their pack I will be purchasing from any of the others that are not leasing a battery as they will all be dumping their electrics on the market in 2012. I just don’t understand why the manufacturers are all waiting for 2012.

]]> By: Василий http://gm-volt.com/2007/08/22/60000-chevy-volts-to-be-built-for-2010-model-year/#comment-128530 Василий Wed, 22 Jul 2009 03:25:59 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/08/22/60000-chevy-volts-to-be-built-for-2010-model-year/#comment-128530 Интересно пишете, жизненно. Все-таки, для того, чтобы делать действительно интересный блог, нужно не только просто рассказывать о чем-то, но и делать это в интересной форме:) Интересно пишете, жизненно. Все-таки, для того, чтобы делать действительно интересный блог, нужно не только просто рассказывать о чем-то, но и делать это в интересной форме:)

]]> By: Redeye http://gm-volt.com/2007/08/22/60000-chevy-volts-to-be-built-for-2010-model-year/#comment-88492 Redeye Thu, 01 Jan 2009 01:02:58 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/08/22/60000-chevy-volts-to-be-built-for-2010-model-year/#comment-88492 Great news ! Of course the pessimistic nay-sayers will put a bad spin (yeah but what if) on it anyway. Like the old joke of the farmer who is always complaining about the weather and when the weather is good he says "yes but it won't last." Great news !

Of course the pessimistic nay-sayers will put a bad spin (yeah but what if) on it anyway.

Like the old joke of the farmer who is always complaining about the weather and when the weather is good he says “yes but it won’t last.”

]]> By: GM-VOLT : Chevy Volt Concept Site » Blog Archive » About 10,000 Volts will be Produced in the First Year http://gm-volt.com/2007/08/22/60000-chevy-volts-to-be-built-for-2010-model-year/#comment-31272 GM-VOLT : Chevy Volt Concept Site » Blog Archive » About 10,000 Volts will be Produced in the First Year Sun, 24 Feb 2008 11:00:37 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/08/22/60000-chevy-volts-to-be-built-for-2010-model-year/#comment-31272 [...] discussions about how many Volts GM plans to produce at first. We have heard before that as many as 60,000 could be built and more recently that tens of thousands were intended to be [...] [...] discussions about how many Volts GM plans to produce at first. We have heard before that as many as 60,000 could be built and more recently that tens of thousands were intended to be [...]

]]> By: GM-VOLT : Chevy Volt Concept Site » Blog Archive » Does GM have a Geographical Rollout Plan for the First Volts? http://gm-volt.com/2007/08/22/60000-chevy-volts-to-be-built-for-2010-model-year/#comment-29447 GM-VOLT : Chevy Volt Concept Site » Blog Archive » Does GM have a Geographical Rollout Plan for the First Volts? Sat, 02 Feb 2008 11:00:37 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/08/22/60000-chevy-volts-to-be-built-for-2010-model-year/#comment-29447 [...] to produce Volts in the tens of thousands; in fact 60,000 was a number tossed around previously (see post), and exec will tell you themselves they would be happy to sell them in the [...] [...] to produce Volts in the tens of thousands; in fact 60,000 was a number tossed around previously (see post), and exec will tell you themselves they would be happy to sell them in the [...]

]]> By: Van http://gm-volt.com/2007/08/22/60000-chevy-volts-to-be-built-for-2010-model-year/#comment-4940 Van Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:02:50 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/08/22/60000-chevy-volts-to-be-built-for-2010-model-year/#comment-4940 I would hope the new PHEV cell from A123 would cost around $500 per KWH. Given the Volt could retail for about $14,000 without the battery, the price could be as low as $22,000 and if the battery cost is $1000 per KWH, then the Volt would sell for around $30,000. If we split the difference, I think it is reasonable to expect the Volt to retail for about $26,000. I would hope the new PHEV cell from A123 would cost around $500 per KWH. Given the Volt could retail for about $14,000 without the battery, the price could be as low as $22,000 and if the battery cost is $1000 per KWH, then the Volt would sell for around $30,000. If we split the difference, I think it is reasonable to expect the Volt to retail for about $26,000.

]]> By: Mike G. http://gm-volt.com/2007/08/22/60000-chevy-volts-to-be-built-for-2010-model-year/#comment-4936 Mike G. Fri, 24 Aug 2007 10:56:51 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/08/22/60000-chevy-volts-to-be-built-for-2010-model-year/#comment-4936 OK. 30k for the car, maybe a little more considering Tax, title, lic., dealer prep etc. Then on top of that you have to pay for a battery that will probably run 200 per month??? Maybe more!!! 30K sounded too good to be true and apparently it was/is! Not dumping on the car just a realization sinking in. Looks like the volt will be out of my price range initially. One day if the cost of the battery drops precipitiously and it has had no issues then maybe they will offer the option to purchase the battery. I believe the car will now evolve like the computer did. Over time you get a drop in price while at the same time getting more than before. Eventually you will be able to by after market batteries. I wonder if you could replace the original battery with a cheaper version (in the future) that gives you half the range for half the price. Add more capacity as you can afford it. Daisy chain them together as you buy more!!! OK. 30k for the car, maybe a little more considering Tax, title, lic., dealer prep etc. Then on top of that you have to pay for a battery that will probably run 200 per month??? Maybe more!!! 30K sounded too good to be true and apparently it was/is!

Not dumping on the car just a realization sinking in. Looks like the volt will be out of my price range initially.

One day if the cost of the battery drops precipitiously and it has had no issues then maybe they will offer the option to purchase the battery.

I believe the car will now evolve like the computer did. Over time you get a drop in price while at the same time getting more than before. Eventually you will be able to by after market batteries.

I wonder if you could replace the original battery with a cheaper version (in the future) that gives you half the range for half the price. Add more capacity as you can afford it. Daisy chain them together as you buy more!!!

]]> By: Mike M http://gm-volt.com/2007/08/22/60000-chevy-volts-to-be-built-for-2010-model-year/#comment-4847 Mike M Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:44:40 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/08/22/60000-chevy-volts-to-be-built-for-2010-model-year/#comment-4847 Adam, if if battery performance increases as you outlined. Chevy could offer a standard 234 lbs. pack and the option to buy more battery storage up to the 400 lbs design limit. I travel about 60 miles a day, I would want up upgrade. However those who travel less could purchase the battery storage pack that best fit their driving needs. Mike Adam, if if battery performance increases as you outlined. Chevy could offer a standard 234 lbs. pack and the option to buy more battery storage up to the 400 lbs design limit. I travel about 60 miles a day, I would want up upgrade. However those who travel less could purchase the battery storage pack that best fit their driving needs.
Mike

]]> By: Don http://gm-volt.com/2007/08/22/60000-chevy-volts-to-be-built-for-2010-model-year/#comment-4829 Don Thu, 23 Aug 2007 05:00:02 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/08/22/60000-chevy-volts-to-be-built-for-2010-model-year/#comment-4829 O.jeff's point is cogent. A123's one subcontracted producer is CBAK in China (publically traded on NASDAQ btw) and CBAK is one of the largest producers of Li batteries in both China and the world. They currently have a production capacity "of approximately 22 million units per month" - http://www.bak.com.cn/touzi-xiangxi.asp?id=354. A123 is a significant part of their business, @ 18% of their current total sales volume, and they have built factories specifically to go after the PHEV and BEV markets, whether that means with A123 or other or developing a domestic market (for China they plan on going after the electric scooter market first). A123 also has some wholly owned facilities. In short, they (A123 and their Chinese partner, CBAK) have the experience and the expertise like no one else around. Of course A123 isn't yet assured of being the supplier, let alone the only one, despite their recent closer collaboration ... Any thoughts on how the newer and improved soon to be released low sulfur diesels with their as good as hybrid mpg and better performance will effect public acceptance of this car? O.jeff’s point is cogent. A123’s one subcontracted producer is CBAK in China (publically traded on NASDAQ btw) and CBAK is one of the largest producers of Li batteries in both China and the world. They currently have a production capacity “of approximately 22 million units per month” – http://www.bak.com.cn/touzi-xiangxi.asp?id=354. A123 is a significant part of their business, @ 18% of their current total sales volume, and they have built factories specifically to go after the PHEV and BEV markets, whether that means with A123 or other or developing a domestic market (for China they plan on going after the electric scooter market first). A123 also has some wholly owned facilities. In short, they (A123 and their Chinese partner, CBAK) have the experience and the expertise like no one else around.

Of course A123 isn’t yet assured of being the supplier, let alone the only one, despite their recent closer collaboration …

Any thoughts on how the newer and improved soon to be released low sulfur diesels with their as good as hybrid mpg and better performance will effect public acceptance of this car?

]]> By: Drake http://gm-volt.com/2007/08/22/60000-chevy-volts-to-be-built-for-2010-model-year/#comment-4823 Drake Thu, 23 Aug 2007 03:24:11 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/08/22/60000-chevy-volts-to-be-built-for-2010-model-year/#comment-4823 60,000 Volts may seem like a lot for a first run, but not when considering that oil may be vastly more expensive by the time the Volt is rolled out to the public. The Volt is just over 3 years away from being available. In 3 years anything can happen. Here are my thoughts: =Will Probably Happen in the next 3 years= - China & India's economies will continue to grow rapidly and their demand for oil will follow suit - Iran will be attacked in one form or another - The Iraq situation will not drastically improve - More terrorist attacks around the world will occur Each of these items alone has the power to increase the price of oil. All of these items combined will dramatically increase the price of oil. We have rough times ahead of us, money-wise, until the Volt comes out. 60,000 Volts may seem like a lot for a first run, but not when considering that oil may be vastly more expensive by the time the Volt is rolled out to the public.

The Volt is just over 3 years away from being available. In 3 years anything can happen. Here are my thoughts:

=Will Probably Happen in the next 3 years=
- China & India’s economies will continue to grow rapidly and their demand for oil will follow suit
- Iran will be attacked in one form or another
- The Iraq situation will not drastically improve
- More terrorist attacks around the world will occur

Each of these items alone has the power to increase the price of oil. All of these items combined will dramatically increase the price of oil.

We have rough times ahead of us, money-wise, until the Volt comes out.

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