Comments on: 10-Mile Range Volt Prototype out in 2008, 40-miler in 2009 http://gm-volt.com/2007/08/02/10-mile-range-volt-prototype-out-in-2008-40-miler-in-2009/ Real-time news, information, and discussion about the Chevrolet Volt. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:07:32 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: busherman http://gm-volt.com/2007/08/02/10-mile-range-volt-prototype-out-in-2008-40-miler-in-2009/#comment-78215 busherman Sun, 09 Nov 2008 21:08:01 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/08/02/10-mile-range-volt-prototype-out-in-2008-40-miler-in-2009/#comment-78215 YOU GUYS R ALL IDIOTS..there is no infrastrusture for this for the general public, what does this mean for my car?no gas, no car. GM is only giving this to the rich and weathly people. Welcome to the new age of control and punishment. Chaos will spur soon.. I have to scrap my car, and buy a hydro car??with what $$??? We need gas at the moment until the infrastuctre is implement and available for all people of the world or north amaerica. thats why they rigged up the gas prices, but it did not work, the elites have failed. there new plan is to ban gas from the importing it in our country. YOU GUYS R ALL IDIOTS..there is no infrastrusture for this for the general public, what does this mean for my car?no gas, no car. GM is only giving this to the rich and weathly people. Welcome to the new age of control and punishment. Chaos will spur soon..
I have to scrap my car, and buy a hydro car??with what $$???
We need gas at the moment until the infrastuctre is implement and available for all people of the world or north amaerica. thats why they rigged up the gas prices, but it did not work, the elites have failed. there new plan is to ban gas from the importing it in our country.

]]> By: Ron http://gm-volt.com/2007/08/02/10-mile-range-volt-prototype-out-in-2008-40-miler-in-2009/#comment-27613 Ron Wed, 16 Jan 2008 11:19:09 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/08/02/10-mile-range-volt-prototype-out-in-2008-40-miler-in-2009/#comment-27613 You guys worry too much. Toyota's president let the cat out of the bag for some odd reason at the Detroit auto show, perhaps purely out of desperation at the thought losing their number 1 spot with the popular prius, and GM couldn't have asked for a more instructive or uncharacteristic lapse of reticence. Now they know they're onto something big with the Volt. Could you imagine the Toyota's president's face if he actually were to unexpectedly catch sight of an imported Chevy Volt driving around the streets of China in his own neighborhood sometime in the near future? He'd probably turn all kinds of pretty colors before passing out! Think about it: Solar panel companies' stocks are soaring while Ethanol companies falter. Key market insiders expect China to ramp up power inverter production on a worldwide scale to meet global grid-tie-in system demands on the horizon, in step with projected solar-based demand. (inverters turn DC solar power into AC grid power) The future is CO2-free electric and everybody whose anybody knows it. At the very moment, the big execs at all the auto companies are finding out that everybody knows that everybody else knows it too! It's a sweet sound isn't it? Can you hear the starting gun? Run rabbit, run! You guys worry too much. Toyota’s president let the cat out of the bag for some odd reason at the Detroit auto show, perhaps purely out of desperation at the thought losing their number 1 spot with the popular prius, and GM couldn’t have asked for a more instructive or uncharacteristic lapse of reticence. Now they know they’re onto something big with the Volt. Could you imagine the Toyota’s president’s face if he actually were to unexpectedly catch sight of an imported Chevy Volt driving around the streets of China in his own neighborhood sometime in the near future? He’d probably turn all kinds of pretty colors before passing out!

Think about it: Solar panel companies’ stocks are soaring while Ethanol companies falter. Key market insiders expect China to ramp up power inverter production on a worldwide scale to meet global grid-tie-in system demands on the horizon, in step with projected solar-based demand. (inverters turn DC solar power into AC grid power) The future is CO2-free electric and everybody whose anybody knows it. At the very moment, the big execs at all the auto companies are finding out that everybody knows that everybody else knows it too! It’s a sweet sound isn’t it? Can you hear the starting gun? Run rabbit, run!

]]> By: Jake http://gm-volt.com/2007/08/02/10-mile-range-volt-prototype-out-in-2008-40-miler-in-2009/#comment-26095 Jake Fri, 11 Jan 2008 02:16:14 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/08/02/10-mile-range-volt-prototype-out-in-2008-40-miler-in-2009/#comment-26095 Hey good buddy, gotta get rid of that echo in that empty room when you give your bi/monthly update. Hey good buddy,
gotta get rid of that echo in that empty room when you give your bi/monthly update.

]]> By: Steve http://gm-volt.com/2007/08/02/10-mile-range-volt-prototype-out-in-2008-40-miler-in-2009/#comment-11628 Steve Mon, 22 Oct 2007 03:25:47 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/08/02/10-mile-range-volt-prototype-out-in-2008-40-miler-in-2009/#comment-11628 Really, everybody should wake up. I would buy the Volt today if it was offered, but chevy has to figure out how to make MONEY after the sale. That's the only reason they are still sticking a gas motor in there. You will still need oil changes, starters, alternators, air filters, exhaust pipes and mufflers...everything you have now. Less of it though, and they have to get that number UP, UP, UP. They could put that car out TODAY, if they wanted to. They already had the EV1 for 10 years. But they made NO money after the initial lease price for warrenty work. They won't make that mistake with the Volt. Maintenance and repairs on the Volt will be guarenteed to cost the consumer plenty. When they get their guarenteed return profit figured out, the Volt will be on the market. And I will buy one. Really, everybody should wake up. I would buy the Volt today if it was offered, but chevy has to figure out how to make MONEY after the sale. That’s the only reason they are still sticking a gas motor in there. You will still need oil changes, starters, alternators, air filters, exhaust pipes and mufflers…everything you have now. Less of it though, and they have to get that number UP, UP, UP. They could put that car out TODAY, if they wanted to. They already had the EV1 for 10 years. But they made NO money after the initial lease price for warrenty work. They won’t make that mistake with the Volt. Maintenance and repairs on the Volt will be guarenteed to cost the consumer plenty. When they get their guarenteed return profit figured out, the Volt will be on the market. And I will buy one.

]]> By: Tom http://gm-volt.com/2007/08/02/10-mile-range-volt-prototype-out-in-2008-40-miler-in-2009/#comment-7674 Tom Fri, 14 Sep 2007 21:11:48 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/08/02/10-mile-range-volt-prototype-out-in-2008-40-miler-in-2009/#comment-7674 It depends on how much faith you have in Chevy's 50 MPG gas-only estimate. Let's compare a "10-mile" Volt to a Prius: much better acceleration, instant throttle response, dramatically simpler drivetrain, quieter, no incessant clicking and whirring and jerking around, night-and-day EV-only abilities, and potentially BETTER GAS MILEAGE. So would I prefer a Volt with 40 mile range? Yes, duh. Would I still seriously consider buying a 10 mile Volt? Definitely. Instead of a Volt with crappy range, think about it as a Prius-dominator. It depends on how much faith you have in Chevy’s 50 MPG gas-only estimate.

Let’s compare a “10-mile” Volt to a Prius: much better acceleration, instant throttle response, dramatically simpler drivetrain, quieter, no incessant clicking and whirring and jerking around, night-and-day EV-only abilities, and potentially BETTER GAS MILEAGE.

So would I prefer a Volt with 40 mile range? Yes, duh. Would I still seriously consider buying a 10 mile Volt? Definitely. Instead of a Volt with crappy range, think about it as a Prius-dominator.

]]> By: RP http://gm-volt.com/2007/08/02/10-mile-range-volt-prototype-out-in-2008-40-miler-in-2009/#comment-4808 RP Wed, 22 Aug 2007 23:36:49 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/08/02/10-mile-range-volt-prototype-out-in-2008-40-miler-in-2009/#comment-4808 You guys are comparing a Prius that went on sale in 2006 with a Volt that *may* go on sale in 2009-2010. Everyone is waiting for Lithium Ion batteries to get cheap enough to use. Why do you think the Tesla EV costs over $80,000? Toyota can't go live with Lithium Ion today, the price would scare everyone away from EVs. You guys are comparing a Prius that went on sale in 2006 with a Volt that *may* go on sale in 2009-2010.

Everyone is waiting for Lithium Ion batteries to get cheap enough to use. Why do you think the Tesla EV costs over $80,000?

Toyota can’t go live with Lithium Ion today, the price would scare everyone away from EVs.

]]> By: matt http://gm-volt.com/2007/08/02/10-mile-range-volt-prototype-out-in-2008-40-miler-in-2009/#comment-3708 matt Fri, 10 Aug 2007 14:00:21 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/08/02/10-mile-range-volt-prototype-out-in-2008-40-miler-in-2009/#comment-3708 hi there, just seen this website. - I´m all for electric cars, but I need a car, EV or not, that can go 600 miles or more per day, with short refuelling times. A solution could be swappable batteries, where gas station simply refuel and/or recondition those batteries - The infrastructure though will cost a lot and take a decade or two. Interesting in the meantime (for me and my target group) are fuelefficient cars. - Did you guys yet see the LOREMO (LOw REsistance MObile)? http://loremo.com/daten_en.php Vmax 100mph efficency 150+ mpg accel. 060: 20seconds a small, 20HP diesel engine will be used - the body withstands Euro NCAP pretty well (american not yet tested), extremely lightweight, at ~ 1,000 pounds It´s still only a concept, though a prototype is expected to be driven to IAA Frankfurt, Sept 14th Production start planned for 2009. regards Matt PS.: Don´t know if you noticed, I pretty much like the concept, I preordered mine already :)) hi there, just seen this website. – I´m all for electric cars, but I need a car, EV or not, that can go 600 miles or more per day, with short refuelling times.
A solution could be swappable batteries, where gas station simply refuel and/or recondition those batteries – The infrastructure though will cost a lot and take a decade or two.

Interesting in the meantime (for me and my target group) are fuelefficient cars. – Did you guys yet see the LOREMO (LOw REsistance MObile)?
http://loremo.com/daten_en.php

Vmax 100mph
efficency 150+ mpg
accel. 060: 20seconds

a small, 20HP diesel engine will be used – the body withstands Euro NCAP pretty well (american not yet tested), extremely lightweight, at ~ 1,000 pounds
It´s still only a concept, though a prototype is expected to be driven to IAA Frankfurt, Sept 14th
Production start planned for 2009.

regards
Matt

PS.: Don´t know if you noticed, I pretty much like the concept, I preordered mine already :) )

]]> By: Greg E http://gm-volt.com/2007/08/02/10-mile-range-volt-prototype-out-in-2008-40-miler-in-2009/#comment-3548 Greg E Wed, 08 Aug 2007 14:54:03 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/08/02/10-mile-range-volt-prototype-out-in-2008-40-miler-in-2009/#comment-3548 I think GM would be smart is offering 3 battery options. 1 option 30 miles ( Smaller Battery but cost less) 2 option 50 miles ( Larger Battery Cost more) 3 option 100 miles ( Most expesive battery) This way let the consumer decide how far they can go on electic charge. This way they can bring it out sooner. By offering a much larger range but charging the customer for it will allow the car to market to all segments. The larger battery model could also have a more powerfull electric motor for faster 0-60 times. GREG I think GM would be smart is offering 3 battery options.

1 option 30 miles ( Smaller Battery but cost less)

2 option 50 miles ( Larger Battery Cost more)

3 option 100 miles ( Most expesive battery)

This way let the consumer decide how far they can go on electic charge. This way they can bring it out sooner. By offering a much larger range but charging the customer for it will allow the car to market to all segments.

The larger battery model could also have a more powerfull electric motor for faster 0-60 times.

GREG

]]> By: kent beuchert http://gm-volt.com/2007/08/02/10-mile-range-volt-prototype-out-in-2008-40-miler-in-2009/#comment-3359 kent beuchert Sat, 04 Aug 2007 23:08:06 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/08/02/10-mile-range-volt-prototype-out-in-2008-40-miler-in-2009/#comment-3359 If Toyota thinks that the public is so dense as to believe that a less than 20 mile range plug-in can compete with a VOLT that also kills it in styling and looks, Toyota needs some new executives to make their decisions. The Prius was NOT designed to be a plug-in, and it shows - it still requires an automatic transmission, for God's sake. No wonder Toyota thinks they are too expensive. Perhaps if they designed them properly .... If Toyota thinks that the public is so dense as to believe that a less than 20 mile range plug-in can compete with a VOLT that also kills it in styling and looks, Toyota needs some new executives to make their decisions. The Prius was NOT designed to be a plug-in, and it shows – it still requires an automatic transmission, for God’s sake. No wonder Toyota thinks they are too expensive. Perhaps if they designed them properly ….

]]> By: Lyle http://gm-volt.com/2007/08/02/10-mile-range-volt-prototype-out-in-2008-40-miler-in-2009/#comment-3357 Lyle Sat, 04 Aug 2007 20:27:02 +0000 http://www.gm-volt.com/2007/08/02/10-mile-range-volt-prototype-out-in-2008-40-miler-in-2009/#comment-3357 Brian I know the plan is to have 1000 Volts by the end of the decade, this was a quote from GM. They might do better..who knows. I think these will go out to a public test group, analogous to whats going to happen in Project Driveway with the fuel-cell Equinoxes, only that project will be limited to people who live near hydrogen fueling stations (big cities) Brian
I know the plan is to have 1000 Volts by the end of the decade, this was a quote from GM. They might do better..who knows. I think these will go out to a public test group, analogous to whats going to happen in Project Driveway with the fuel-cell Equinoxes, only that project will be limited to people who live near hydrogen fueling stations (big cities)

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